Monday, November 30, 2009

Adoption

As some of you may have already heard, our IVF at Taichung was not successful. We tested negative for pregnancy. Dr Lee said everything is fine with me and hubby, embryos just did not implant this time, probably because they were not in the right place. We just need to keep trying.


For me and hubby, we planned to try IVF just once. If it didn't work out, we would continue just trying on our own and start exploring adoption as well. We talked to a friend of ours who adopted 2 of her kids several yrs ago. She referred us to the NGO from where she did the adoption. The NGO is called NORFIL, and is one of only 2 entities that are authorized to process adoptions aside from DSWD. So if you want to avoid the bureacracy and slowness of govt agencies like DSWD, going directly to an entity like NORFIL might be a good choice. NORFIL is located at:

#16 Mother Ignacia Ave., corner Roces Avenue,
Quezon City

If you wish to call them, their Tel. Nos are: 372-3577 to 79. Look for Cessna. She's in charge of adoptions.

You can also find out more about them thru their website:

http://www.norfil.com.ph


The first step is to set an appt with them for an orientation session (ours is this Dec 4). Usually lasts about 1 and a half hours. They will give an orientation on the process, reqts etc. There will be other couples there as well.

Will let you know more after we've gone through the session.

Yahoo Group


There's a wonderful IVF Yahoo group of Pinays (most of whom went to Taichung). It's called the Babae Yahoo Group. There's a wealth of knowledge, experience, and support that you can get from that group. If you wish to be part of the group, send me your email address (you can post it in the comments section) and I'll have the administrator add you.

IVF Clinic Tips

1) Getting to the clinic

On your first day/appt, the clinic will send a car to pick you up at your hotel. You'll have to walk or take a cab home though after. On the days after, you go on your own already.

2) Clinic payments

Your total IVF cost with the clinic will be about NT120,000-150,000. You don’t need to pay the total amt right away. You pay it in installments. The schedule of payments is more or less like this:

• Your 1st appt – About NT 10,000 (for your blood tests)
• Day 2 or 3 – NT 55,000 (for your fertility meds, shots etc)
• Day 8 til egg retrieval – You’ll be going to the clinic daily to have your follicles checked via ultrasound. The doctor may decide to extend your fertility shots from day to day, so you’ll need to pay about NT 4,000 per day for each additional shot.
• Egg retrieval day – NT 20,000
• Embryo transfer day - NT 40,000

Other possible costs:
• Embryo cryo storage – If you are fortunate enough to have extra good quality embryos that you can have frozen here at the clinic, storage is free for the first year, and NT 30,000/yr thereafter.
• IVIG treatment sessions - If you end up having an immunological problem like me, be prepared to pay upto NT 50,000 per treatment (IVIG) session. In my case, I’ll need to do 4 sessions. My 1st session was on Day 8. 2nd session is after I test positive for pregnancy. Not sure yet when exactly the 3rd and 4th sessions will be, but I heard they might be on my 6th and 10th weeks of pregnancy (counting from first day of your last period). If you test negative for pregnancy, then you don’t need to do IVIG sessions anymore beyond the 1st one

3) Egg retrieval - Shave the area of your private parts the day before egg retrieval. Otherwise they'll do it for you right before the procedure, and they're not as gentle. So you're better off doing it yourself. Egg retrieval is done under general anesthesia. When you wake up, they'll wait for you to go the bathroom to urinate at least 2 times before they discharge you. In the meantime, your hubby will be waiting for you at the VIP area. When you're ready to be discharged, they'll call him to come get you.

4) Embryo transfer - You first go to a room for a detailed ultrasound. Then you go to the private room where the transfer will be done. When Dr. Lee comes to do the transfer, he'll give you a printout/report which says how many eggs were fertlizied (incl pics of the embryos). He'll tell you how many embryos he'll transfer (unless you've had a previous discussion with him and advised him of how many you want transferred), and then do the transfer. After the transfer, you'll be asked to lie down in the clinic's room for 3 hours after embryo transfer. There's a TV in the room so you won't get bored. But I mostly slept and read magazines. Your hubby can stay with you in the room. You can leave after 3 hours and go back to your hotel. Some people prefer to stay til end of the day or even overnight. But this will depend on the availability of the room.

5) Injections

You can learn to do the injections yourself (which I did), have your hubby learn, or go to the clinic each time (which can be a hassle, esp when you have 3 injections per day). Most of the injections are subcutaneous and can be done on your tummy - these I learned to do myself. But a few are intramuscular (progesterone shots) and need to be done on your butt. It's hard to do yourself, so it's better to have the clinic teach your hubby or go to the clinic to have them do it.


Some injections come in tiny bottles which you need to break. First time we did it, the glass shattered - we broke it the wrong way pala. The way to do it is as follows. Look at the neck of the bottle. You'll see a small circle on the neck - this is the weakest point on the bottle neck. Make the circle face you. Then break the bottle top away from you. It should break easily.

Useful Chinese Phrases

Hello / how are you - ni hao
Thank you - sheh sheh
How much is this? - dor sheow chen
Toilet - tsur swoh
Water - shway
Rice - fan
Fish - yu
Beef - niu ryow
Chicken - ji ryow
Pork - chu ryow
Egg - dan
Vegetables - shu sai
Menu - sai dan
Bill - my dan
Exchange money - duy hwan

Shopping, Eating, Other Stuff To Do in Taichung

Shopping

1) Food/Grocery – Jasons (in Chungyo Dept Store), Carrefour (there are several branches including one in Taichung Central Dept Store), Capitan (wonderful supermarket behind Zhong Ke Hotel), convenience stores like 7-11, OK Mart, Family Mart (they have great frozen meals that you can have microwaved, such as pasta)

2) Clothes – Dept stores like Chungyo, Mitsukoshi, Tiger City, Sogo. Find English books and mags at Eslite Bookstore in Chungyo. If you love Muji, they have a branch in Chungyo. In case you see signs like 8, 7, 6 when you shop, these mean that they're 20%, 30% or 40% off respectively. We were trying to figure this out for the longest time. A salesperson who could speak English finally explained it to us.

3) Eating Out – Yakiniku next to Zhong Ke was our fave resto (all you can eat for just Ps700), but we recently heard that they've closed down :( Also try Napoli for their chicken and pizza. It's near the IVF Clinic. You can also have your hotel call them and order for delivery. Fastfood chains like McDonalds, Burger King, KFC (try their egg tarts). There's also Chilis and Cold Stone ice cream in Tiger City. Also Fridays across Chungyo. In front of Chungyo is a market area where you can enjoy dimsum, stinky tofu, etc. Enjoy bubble tea and the many bread stores in Taichung. Did you know that this is where bubble tea was invented? On our last night in Taichung, we went to Mr. Goose. It's near Tiger City. Order the goose and stinky tofu as pulutan, and enjoy with Taiwan beer.

4) Entertainment - You can watch English movies in Tiger City or Taichung Central. If you're booked at Zhong Ke Hotel, you can ask the lobby to print out the week's movie skeds for you.

5) Sightseeing - Check out the Museum of Natural Science (don't bother to watch the movies, they're all in Chinese), Botanical Garden. If you're willing to travel farther out of central Taichung, go see Sun Moon Lake and the Dakeng Scenic Area

6) Gym - This is especially useful for the husbands. There's Peri which is a 15 min walk from Alice Hotel (going towards the direction of Chungyo). You can sign up on a monthly basis (Ps2700/month). There's also California Fitness but I heard they're more expensive and are farther away from Alice Hotel.

7) Acupuncture - When I was in Taichung, a number of the Pinoy IVF couples were going for acupuncture at a clinic near Chungyo. Heard it's very good (both for wife and hubby), and pretty cheap (about Ps500/session lang). You can ask the lobby people at Alice Hotel for details (clinic location, number etc).

8) Mass - There's a Catholic Church that says Mass in English near Taichung Central. You can take a bus from Alice Hotel. Sunday Mass is at 11am. Mass is filled with Pinoy;s who work in Taichung.